Last week we posted an entry titled
"The Wrong Man" that linked to an item posted on Norman Lebrecht's Page Six-wannabe blog
Slipped Disc titled "Exclusive: New York Times demotes a critic" reporting that
The New York Times had "reassigned" its longtime classical music critic Allan Kozinn to "the newly-created, sidewalk-pounding post of general cultural reporter," as Mr. Lebrecht put it. The report was quite detailed vis-à-vis the backstory of this action and so our entry linking to that report began with the sentence:
If the accuracy of this report by Norman Lebrecht can be trusted (a not always safe assumption), The New York Times reassigned the wrong man.
It was our way of letting our readers know that we had no corroboration of any of Mr. Lebrecht's report and were aware that taking at face value all the details included in Mr. Lebrecht's reporting of such news stories is generally not, um, shall we say, an entirely prudent thing to do.
In his blog item, Mr. Lebrecht had some quite nasty things to say about the
Times's Classical Music Editor James R. Oestreich and in the ensuing comments section of that item (which at present numbers some 141 comments) one commenter suggested that Mr. Lebrecht's nastiness toward Mr. Oestreich might have something to do with Mr. Oestreich's
New York Times book review of Mr. Lebrecht's latest book,
Why Mahler?: How One Man and Ten Symphonies Changed Our World, in which review Mr. Oestreich gave the book a bit of a drubbing.
Mr. Lebrecht responded to the commenter's suggestion by saying he (Norman Lebrecht) was unaware of the review and then altered his response to say, "Never saw it… won’t bother now." Another commenter responded with
the link to the review whereupon Mr. Lebrecht deleted both the comment providing the link and the original comment suggesting that Mr. Lebrecht's nastiness toward Mr. Oestreich might be due the latter's uncomplimentary review of Mr. Lebrecht's book. All of this within the space of some ten minutes or so. We were able to see it all only because we'd subscribed to eMail notification of all comments for that item which eMail is sent automatically by the software the instant a comment is made public. (Ironically, Mr. Lebrecht neglected to delete his own laconic response to the original comment which response is, at this writing, still extant and just sitting there all by its lonesome, disconnected from everything and making no sense whatsoever.)
We must confess we found this whole business on Mr. Lebrecht's part quite dismaying. His deleting of the two comments was dishonest enough, but his declaration that he was ignorant of or never saw
The New York Times's review of his new book strains credibility well past the breaking point. We'd long been aware of Mr. Lebrecht's, um, playing loose with facts but had never suspected him of outright dishonesty.
And just why are we troubling to relate this sordid business here? Because it's prelude to what followed in that same comments thread which involved our good self and which we want to make a matter of record here on S&F just in case the involved comments should one day, um, mysteriously no longer display in that comments thread.
One of the commenters in that comments thread was one William Osborne; a True Believer of the PC sort and a man with an agenda. We'd run into Mr. Osborne some four years earlier in another comments thread on another website and had exchanged some few comments with him having to do with the Vienna Philharmonic's practice of denying membership in the orchestra to females and non-White males. Mr. Osborne was on a crusade to bring a halt to this "bigoted and racist" practice, as he called it, and we took the position — one which we still hold today — that the Vienna Philharmonic, a private organization, is entitled to deny membership to anyone it pleases for whatever reason, stupid and self-defeating though that reason may be. This of course fairly incensed Mr. Osborne who promptly labeled us a bigot and racist for our view of the matter.
In the present comments thread on Mr. Lebrecht's blog, we read the following comment from Mr. Osborne in response to a comment by another commenter wherein the commenter had written, among other negative things about Mr. Oestreich, "Mr Oestreich has annoyed so many people with his bile-rich reviews":
Very good observations, and they also apply well to the review of Norman’s book that was mentioned. One senses his [James R. Oestreich's] personal resentments in the commentary. We might also remember that Oestreich is an apologist for the Vienna Philharmonic. He has written articles defending the orchestra and rationalizing its sexism and racism. It is one thing to appreciate the orchestra’s music-making, but another to dismiss its bigotry and treat it as a non-topic. I think many are looking forward to the sea change that will come when he leaves the Times.
Our jaw dropped on reading this. What could Mr. Oestreich being "an apologist for the Vienna Philharmonic" possibly have to do with the business to hand? Not a damn thing that we could see, and so we responded:
Still riding that same old, stillborn hobbyhorse regarding the Vienna Philharmonic, I see.
Time to dismount and move on.
To which Mr. Osborne replied:
In earlier discussions in other forums, Mr. Douglas has gone on record saying that the Vienna Philharmonic/Vienna State Opera Orchestra is entitled to exclude both women and racial minorities.
To which we replied:
And up to your same old tricks again, I see. You know very well that the last time you tried to sneak the Vienna State Opera Orchestra into the Vienna Philharmonic question you were roundly and soundly called out for the underhanded attempt as you're perfectly aware they're two entirely separate organizations — one public, one private — regardless that the same personnel occupy both.
That comment never saw the light of day because it was deleted
instantly by Mr. Lebrecht before it was made public. Although we were unaware of it at the time, we shortly thereafter learned that not only does Mr. Lebrecht hold the same view as Mr. Osborne regarding the Vienna Philharmonic in this matter but had even promoted and linked to Mr. Osborne's crusade against the orchestra.
When we discovered our comment had been deleted, we shot off another comment addressed directly to Mr. Lebrecht and for his eyes only (he moderates all comments posted to his blog so we knew he would see it and know it was not for publication) which read:
Mr. Lebrecht:
I see you declined to publish my response to William Osborne's subtle lie about me (I'm nowhere on record or off as saying "the Vienna State Opera Orchestra is entitled to exclude both women and racial minorities" as he invidiously suggested). It's not the first time he's done that, usually following it by declaring me a racist and bigot, his favorite response to those who disagree with his position on the Vienna Philharmonic. I realize this thread is no place to have this business out, but having let stand Mr. Osborne's subtle lie, you owe me at least a response to it.
In response to which Mr. Lebrecht, instead of asking us to resubmit the comment he deleted, extracted from our above protest the single sentence, "I’m nowhere on record or off as saying 'the Vienna State Opera Orchestra is entitled to exclude both women and racial minorities' as Mr Osborne invidiously suggested. ACD," and without explanation or editor's note published
that as OUR response to Mr. Osborne.
Mr. Osborne, being ignorant of these machinations and innocently taking what Mr. Lebrecht had published under our name at face value, replied:
Notice that Mr. Douglas only mentions the Vienna State Opera Orchestra as not entitled to exclude women and racial minorities. He conspicuously does not mention the Vienna Philharmonic. His claim has been that since the Vienna Philharmonic is a “private” organization, it can exclude whoever it wants.
It is important to remember that the State Opera Orchestra and the Vienna Philharmonic are the same orchestra and use the same personnel. The members of the opera orchestra just run the Vienna Philharmonic on the side as a nominally “private” organization. If the Philharmonic excludes people based on race and gender, so does the State Opera Orchestra.
So Mr. Douglas, if you have changed your stance and no longer feel the Vienna Philharmonic is entitled to exclude people based on race and gender, please let us know.
To which we responded:
Mr. Lebrecht will not permit me to respond to any of your posts on this matter. He deleted my original response to your prior post, and when I protested, he extracted a single sentence from my protest and published it above as my response to you. It’s pointless for me to attempt to continue to post here as even if this post gets through, which is extremely doubtful, Mr. Lebrecht will delete or edit any replies I make to your subtly false and invidious charges. I may be blocked from replying here, but you may be certain I’ll be posting the entire dishonest history of this exchange and more on the dishonesty of Mr. Lebrecht on Sounds & Fury (my blog) which is read by most if not all who read this blog.
(We here freely confess we were being somewhat disingenuous in our above by saying that it's "extremely doubtful" our above comment would "get through." We knew for certain it would because of the threat of its last sentence. Mr. Lebrecht may be dishonest, but he's not stupid.)
Mr. Lebrecht replied to our above with the laconic and dishonest comment:
This site operates a non-abuse policy. ACD’s replies were deleted or redacted on those grounds.
It would appear Mr. Lebrecht considers a true recounting of inconvenient fact to be abusive and so felt compelled to delete our response to Mr. Osborne.
And so endeth the ugly tale.
As previously noted, all the above just for the record.
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